November 11, 2025 by Lisa
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#076: The Leap After 22 Years: How Kathleen Found Clarity & Left Teaching Behind
with Kathleen Long
Have you ever had the feeling or thought “I deserve better than this?” – if yes, then you’re not alone!
That’s exactly how former teacher, Kathleen Long, felt before making the leap out of the classroom.
After 22 years in the classroom, Kathleen knew she was ready for a change—but like so many veteran teachers, the idea of starting over felt overwhelming.
In this inspiring episode of Beyond the Classroom, Kathleen shares how she overcame fear, found clarity, and finally gave herself permission to take the leap.
With the help of a supportive career transition coaching program, she made her career transition a reality. She talks about how this program supported her, helped her with her resume, networking, and ultimately lead her to the path she’s on today.
We’ll also talk about her first steps in new life beyond the classroom where she’s been working as an ADHD life coach. She’s launched her own coaching practice focused on emotional intelligence and ADHD life coaching, and she’s building a life she loves.
Her story is a powerful reminder that:
It’s never too late to reinvent yourself
Clarity comes from taking action (not just thinking about it)
The right support can make all the difference
Whether you’re still in the classroom or already exploring new paths, this episode will leave you motivated, grounded, and full of possibility.
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≫ Kathleen Long's LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathleen-m-long/
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Deiera Bennett is the owner of Career Confidence by Dee. She uses her 6+ years of marketing, writing, and education experience to teach jobseekers how to market themselves for new careers. Deiera currently works for a branding agency as a LinkedIn Strategist & Ghostwriter for CEOs. Whether you’re a teacher or a CEO, her goal is to help you confidently communicate your value to your audience.
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Deiera Bennett is the owner of Career Confidence by Dee. She uses her 6+ years of marketing, writing, and education experience to teach jobseekers how to market themselves for new careers. Deiera currently works for a branding agency as a LinkedIn Strategist & Ghostwriter for CEOs. Whether you’re a teacher or a CEO, her goal is to help you confidently communicate your value to your audience.
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Corporate Learning & Development Executive
Charissa Stowers is an experienced senior level Learning and Development Director. Charissa has a proven track record of development and launch of innovative, industry leading programs that help people ENJOY learning. She has experience hiring and managing teams within the L&D space. With over 15 years of career experience in the technology field, she has had many roles at various companies. She’s worked at small tech startups, and at large international companies such as Apple and Pandora/Sirius XM.
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Kate Hutson is a Life & Career Coach providing trusted coaching for professional women to show up with confidence and take control of their careers. After a decade of passionate work as a business leader, teacher, and coach, Kate turned her passion for mentoring others into practical knowledge for the real world– skills that women can use in their everyday lives to achieve their long-term career goals and live with more joy, energy, and fulfillment.
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Career Exploration Coach & CEO @WOKEN
Rachel Serwetz’ early professional experience was at Goldman Sachs in Operations and at Bridgewater Associates in HR. From there, she was trained as a coach at NYU and became a certified coach through the International Coach Federation. After this, she worked in HR Research at Aon Hewitt and attained her Technology MBA at NYU Stern. Throughout her career, she has helped hundreds of professionals with career exploration and for the past 4.5 years she has been building her company, WOKEN, which is an online career exploration platform to coach professionals through the process of clarifying their ideal job and career path. She is also an Adjunct Professor of Entrepreneurship at Binghamton University and has served as a Career Coach through the Flatiron School/WeWork, Columbia University, and Project Activate. Learn more about WOKEN here: iamwoken.com.
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Career Coach
Alyson Garrido is passionate about supporting professionals to advance their careers and find jobs they will enjoy. As a career coach, she partners with her clients to identify their strengths and create a path toward a more fulfilling career. Alyson provides support around interview preparation, performance reviews and salary negotiations, ensuring that her clients present themselves in the best possible light. Learn more or book a session with Alyson by visiting www.alysongarrid.com.
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Customer Success Executive/CEO
Annie Dean (she/her) is CEO and Cofounder of RecastSucces; working to diversify the tech industry by helping career transitioners, supporting mentorship, and Fractional Head of Success leadership for SaaS startups. She is also a Udemy for Business and Maven instructor. Previously she was a career transitioner herself. She went on to Customer Success leadership and executive roles at LinkedIn, Coursera, and several startups. She is a wife and mom living in a rural community near Yosemite.
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EdTech Executive | CEO of LearnWorld
Lisa Harding is a former EdTech Executive with over 15 years of experience driving growth and innovation in the EdTech market. Most recently, Lisa served as President of SimpleK12, an online professional development company for K-12 educators. Prior to serving as the company President, Lisa held roles in product/content marketing and development, eCommerce, and sales. Lisa has dedicated her career to providing award-winning training and development to classroom teachers. She has also interviewed and hired many career changers – specifically teachers! Throughout her career in the EdTech industry, Lisa has demonstrated strong leadership, a passion for educators, and a deep commitment to providing best-in-class online courseware. Lisa now serves as Co-Founder and CEO of LearnWorld.
EdTech Executive | CEO of LearnWorld
Lisa Harding is a former EdTech Executive with over 15 years of experience driving growth and innovation in the EdTech market. Most recently, Lisa served as President of SimpleK12, an online professional development company for K-12 educators. Prior to serving as the company President, Lisa held roles in product/content marketing and development, eCommerce, and sales. Lisa has dedicated her career to providing award-winning training and development to classroom teachers. She has also interviewed and hired many career changers – specifically teachers! Throughout her career in the EdTech industry, Lisa has demonstrated strong leadership, a passion for educators, and a deep commitment to providing best-in-class online courseware. Lisa now serves as Co-Founder and CEO of LearnWorld.
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Shannon Schwaebler has over eight years of experience in career development and higher education. She has dedicated her career to supporting individuals in navigating their career paths, providing them with the necessary tools and skillset to confidently navigate their career development process. Shannon understands that career paths are not always straightforward and linear. Instead, she believes that success comes from being prepared for the unpredictable and having the ability to adapt to new situations. Her approach to career development is centered around empowering individuals with the skills and knowledge to succeed in their chosen field. Shannon holds a Bachelor’s degree in Chemistry, a Master’s degree in Higher Education, and multiple certifications, including Global Career Development Facilitator, Certified Professional Resume Writer, Certified Program Planner, and AAUW Salary Negotiation trainer.
GCDF, CPRW
Shannon Schwaebler has over eight years of experience in career development and higher education. She has dedicated her career to supporting individuals in navigating their career paths, providing them with the necessary tools and skillset to confidently navigate their career development process. Shannon understands that career paths are not always straightforward and linear. Instead, she believes that success comes from being prepared for the unpredictable and having the ability to adapt to new situations. Her approach to career development is centered around empowering individuals with the skills and knowledge to succeed in their chosen field. Shannon holds a Bachelor’s degree in Chemistry, a Master’s degree in Higher Education, and multiple certifications, including Global Career Development Facilitator, Certified Professional Resume Writer, Certified Program Planner, and AAUW Salary Negotiation trainer.
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Director of Growth Marketing
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Former Educator
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Educational Consultant, Speaker
Former Educator
Reba Gordon Matthews is an Educational Consultant with Houghton-Mifflin-Harcourt and a a Freelance Coach and Instructional Designer creating eLearning and learner experience courses. She has over 20 years of elementary teaching experience and has served as an adjunct instructor for Early Childhood Education courses. She holds a Masters in Educational Technology and a Masters in Instructional Design.
As a way of “Paying It Forward,” Reba is also the co-founder and Executive Director of The Jamal Gordon-Hill Foundation. This small family organization supports at-risk young people with academic tutoring, technology training, and college scholarships.
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Katie Fielding is an educational consultant with 20 years of public school experience. She champions digital accessibility, creativity, and Universal Design for Learning (UDL) in classrooms. Specializing in technology and STEM integration, Katie creates interdisciplinary instructional experiences and shares her expertise through presentations and workshops. Recognized as VSTE Coach of the Year in 2018 and a featured voice at ISTELive 2024, she holds multiple certifications, including UDL Credential 2, ISTE Certification, Google Innovator, and Microsoft Innovative Educator Expert. She is a trainer for the ISTE Certified Educator program, and works for Book Creator as their Educational Content Manager.
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Steven W. Anderson is a former educator and nationally recognized voice in educational technology, now serving as Director of Solutions Engineering at PowerSchool. With over a decade of leadership experience supporting schools and districts, Steven helps design strategic solutions that elevate teaching, learning, and digital integration across K–12 systems. At the summit, he’ll share his perspective as former teacher turned hiring manager.
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Nicholas Provenzano is a former classroom educator who now leads community and content strategy at SchoolAI, where he trains teachers and develops tools to enhance student learning through AI-powered solutions. With over 20 years of experience as a teacher, consultant, and professional development facilitator, Nicholas is passionate about empowering educators to integrate technology and maker-centered learning in meaningful ways. At the summit, he’ll share his perspective as former teacher making the transition and advice from the “other side” of the hiring table.
Nicholas is also the founder of The Nerdy Teacher, a widely read blog, and a contributor to platforms like Edutopia. His work has been featured on CNN, Education Week, and more. Nicholas holds numerous credentials including Google Certified Innovator, Adobe Education Leader, and Microsoft Minecraft Mentor, and is the author of three best-selling books on makerspaces and project-based learning.
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Director of Global L&D Krispy Kreme
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Director of Global L&D Krispy Kreme
Timothy Gwynn is a former teacher turned corporate learning strategist, currently serving as the Director of Global Learning & Development at Krispy Kreme. With a background that spans education, instructional design, and enterprise training, he now leads global professional development initiatives that prioritize learner engagement and align closely with business goals.
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